In the latest episode of Jotxs y recuerdos, Alex talks with local queer punk musician, Esther Martinez from the band, Fantástico. She shares her experiences with the music scene and explores her identity. Listen to the episode or read an excerpt below.

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Punk is Queer and Queer is Punk:

Alex: Do you think there is a connection between being queer and punk?

Esther: Yes! There has to be because you’re already going against the grain. You’re already doing something that is not conforming to what everyday, 9 to 5, people do…We’re already different for some reason. So being punk…you’re already non-conforming…It does go because if you’re that different person-if you’re the person that is not accepted in high school-the punks are going to accept you. The punks are going to be friends with you. No matter what you are, you know what I mean? It’s just the music that you listen to. It’s all that punks care about.

It’s a way of life. It goes so much deeper than all of that stuff, but, you know, it does go hand in hand. As a queer person I’m going to go to a punk show because I feel comfortable, because I feel safe. Because I feel okay there…

Sexism and Assault Issues in the Local Scene:

A: My girlfriend is very much into punk and very much into music. She’s the first person that told me…that punk is queer and that queer is punk and they go hand in hand. I remember I was in class one day with this dude, from Chicago actually, and he liked punk music. I told him punk was queer, and he looked at me really weird. And obviously if you don’t get that, you’re doing it wrong because punk is…about going against the system, challenging normative structures…Obviously that person was stupid, but that being said in the punk scene there are cis men that are awful…I know that you had posted in the Twitter about sexual abuse in the local music scene. Do you want to talk a little about that or the sexism that happens in the music scene?

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E: Yeah. I mean it happens everywhere. In the music scene, it’s going to be glitter-coated. It’s going to be coated with glitter. It’s going to be like oh, we’re going to have a ladies’ night. We’re going to feature all the females on one bill for this one Tuesday night as opposed to let’s put the females on the bill at the other nights. You know, all the really big nights when the big bands are here…

It’s there and we need to address the fact that women do get sexually assaulted at shows and at concerts and at bars and places. People feel that they can take advantage of someone who’s really drunk and they’re thinking that’s consent. They’re okay with that. And it doesn’t only happen to women, it happen to men also….

Me mentioning in social media that I didn’t like it. It did open a big can of worms in the subject, which I’m glad that it did…It made me glad that the light was being shed on that topic as it needs to be.

Men don’t think that anything’s wrong. Women think that the women are lying…They don’t believe the victims. It’s never about the victims. It’s about “Well, who’s corroborating the story. Well, let’s find out more details. Let me go ahead and message all these people.” Like so many people messaged me about who said this and who’s this and I’m going to make my own investigation. And I’m going to do this and the other, and it’s like “Come on dude, why can’t you believe what a women is saying…”

It’s ugly shit… Their is no right to do that, like get the fuck out of here. [Abusers] are not wanted, [they’re] not needed. People stop going to shows. Like people have told me that they stopped going to shows because of how they were treated at a show, and it’s really sad. I want those people to come back, I want those people to be able to come back to shows…

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